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        <title>111. (June 2022) A Hero Born by Jin Yong — The Tabletop Roleplayers' Book Club</title>
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        <title>Just to show it's not just Chinese martial arts that use cool names...</title>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2022 20:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, it was the annual Grasmere Sports Day yesterday (annual by intent, though it hadn't happened the last two years because of covid) and I got to watch some of the Cumberland wrestling competitions on the day. And although they don't use fancy phrases like "agile crane flies above the sun" or whatever, there is a whole vocabulary associated with this particular sport - back heel, cross buttock, inside hipe, and the like. The curious can discover some of our own home-grown martial arts lingo at <a href="https://cumbriacrack.com/2022/08/26/do-you-know-your-buttocking-from-your-back-heel-a-visitors-guide-to-grasmere-lakeland-sports/" rel="nofollow">https://cumbriacrack.com/2022/08/26/do-you-know-your-buttocking-from-your-back-heel-a-visitors-guide-to-grasmere-lakeland-sports/</a></p>

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        <title>Hero Born Q8: Gaming</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2022 14:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>How would you do wuxia gaming? What elements of the genre are important to include in the game?</p>

<p>There are quite a few wuxia-inspired games out there. Exalted leans into the detail of the techniques. Hearts of Wulin (I believe) emphasises the emotional side of things. The Avatar game (a wuxia/western hybrid) is all about balance. Tenra Bansho Zero lies somewhere in between, with some speial abilities and mechanical support for emotional goals.</p>

<p>How would you do it?</p>
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        <title>Hero Born Q4: Wulin martial arts world</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2022 14:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>The wulin martial arts world is presented as something quite different from the normal sphere of everyday people. It's also distinct from the world of artisocrats and rulers. (Again, that's different from Western standard.) There aren't any particular "entry requirements" to wulin: you don't have to be born of the right parents, and few people are destined to be great martial artists.</p>

<p>Also compare the background of the Seven Freaks, of disparate commoners, to the more refined Daoist martial artists. Do they get the same respect?</p>
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        <title>Hero Born Q3: Guo Jing</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2022 14:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Guo Jing's the hero of this story, but is he a worthy one? He's pushed into martial arts training because of a promise by his parents and a bet by the people who rescue them. He struggles to learn the skills, and only progresses when Ma Yu teaches him inner strength. He's always rather naive and innocent and is described as being a bit stupid.</p>

<p>What do you think of the idea of having flawed character as the hero? Do you think it makes the book stronger or weaker?</p>
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        <title>Hero Born Q7: Supernatural martial arts</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2022 14:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>The martial arts presented are clearly supernatural. There are the extreme acts of fighting and the techniques. Strikes on pressure points can disable limbs and people.  The cultivation of neigong (inner strength) gives all sorts of supernatural abilities, like the ability to climb impossible cliffs and rid ones body of poison. The culmination of that is inner kung fu leading to immortality.</p>

<p>What are your thoughts on this sort of magic? How does it compare to the "traditional" fantasy tropes of wizards and spells, or the subtle magic of Lord of the Rings or other folk stories?</p>
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        <title>Hero Born Q5: Cultural differences</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2022 14:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Another couple of differences in this book when compared to Western tropes concern age and gender.</p>

<p>The gender roles in this book are fairly "traditional" with women relegated to passive roles of wives and mothers, with widows expected not to remarry. (This is quite different in contemporary wuxia TV dramas, which often feature active, dynamic women.)</p>

<p>Age is treated differently in China, with older people not only respected for their wisdom, but often also higher-skilled and therefore better martial artists. That's different from Western ideals, where youth is a clear correlate with physical prowess.</p>

<p>What do you think of these differences? What other cultural differences did you spot?</p>
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        <title>Hero Born Q2: Family, blood and adopted</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2022 14:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Family ties are a great driver of action in this book, and it's not just blood relations. The connection between adoptive brothers (and sisters) and the shifu-student bond are often more important than parent and child. How do those bonds of filial duty and loyalty contrast with drives of morality and self-interest? How do these compare to Western ideas of loyalty and duty?</p>
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        <title>Hero Born Q1: Length and pacing</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2022 14:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I admit, I got it wrong. "Condor Heroes" is a stand-alone book in the trilogy, but it's a long book that's spread over four volumes. It's long for a western novel, but seems typical for the wuxia books and TV shows I've encountered.</p>

<p>What did people think of the length and pacing? Did this book keep you engaged? How much of Guo Jing's origin story did you need? Did the various plot twists and characters make sense in this volume, or were they too obviously being introduced to foreshadow events later?</p>
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        <title>Hero Born Q6: Fight scenes</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2022 14:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>There are a good few major fight scenes in this book. What did you think of them? Were they engaging as the visual antics of martial arts cinema? Did you think the fights were well-described? Did the ornate names of the various moves add to or detract from the descrption? (Wild Goose Leaves the Flock, Returning Horse, Seagull Skims the Sea, Poison Snake Seeks the Cave) Did the fight scenes serve the story, advancing the plot and revealing character? How did they do that?</p>
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        <title>Hero Born: progress</title>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>How are people doing with this book? Are we on track to have some discussion at the weekend?</p>
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        <title>A Hero Born: Description and back cover blurb</title>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2022 06:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>RichardAbbott</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p><strong>China: 1200 A.D.</strong></p>

<p><strong>The Song Empire has been invaded by its warlike Jurchen neighbours from the north. Half its territory and its historic capital lie in enemy hands; the peasants toil under the burden of the annual tribute demanded by the victors. Meanwhile, on the Mongolian steppe, a disparate nation of great warriors is about to be united by a warlord whose name will endure for eternity: Genghis Khan.</strong></p>

<p>Guo Jing, son of a murdered Song patriot, grew up with Genghis Khan's army. He is humble, loyal, perhaps not altogether wise, and is fated from birth to one day confront an opponent who is the opposite of him in every way: privileged, cunning and flawlessly trained in the martial arts.</p>

<p>Guided by his faithful <em>shifus</em>, The Seven Heroes of the South, Guo Jing must return to China - to the Garden of the Drunken Immortals in Jiaxing - to fulfil his destiny. But in a divided land riven by war and betrayal, his courage and his loyalties will be tested at every turn.</p>

<p><strong>Translated from the Chinese by Anna Holmwood</strong></p>
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