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        <title>102. (August 2021) Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell — The Tabletop Roleplayers' Book Club</title>
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        <title>Cloud Atlas 05 - Half-Lives: The First Luisa Rey Mystery</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2021 00:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I found this story quite different from the others. There were quite a few things: a female protagonist, a different narrative voice, multiple narrators, or perhaps a narrator who could read minds ... I enjoyed the suspense of following the efforts to reveal the cover-up, and found the character's motivations were more believable than the first two stories. In general I found the character's motivations easier to understand as the book went forward. Anyone else find this?</p>

<p>In terms of gaming, due to the narrative voice I found it easier to imagine how PCs would make these decisions. <em>Sloosha's Crossin' An' EV'Rythin' After</em>  was similar. The other stories were more intimate, and so seemed to me less playable for a group.</p>
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        <title>Cloud Atlas 04 - Letters from Zedelghem</title>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2021 23:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Another anachronistic story, but I enjoyed it more than the <em>Pacific Journal.</em> Despite its anachronistic tone it reminded me of a season of some reality TV show, like say <em>Big Brother,</em> where all the contestants are not very admirable. While I appreciate that comedy is about laughing at people who, like ourselves, deserve the bad things that happen to them, I wouldn't hang out with these people. This is when I started to wonder if Mitchell (the author) was a bit of a misanthrope, or if he was just trying to tell it like it is. I didn't really come to a conclusion about this, but thinking about it I wondered if telling  it like it is is might reveal more about the speaker's local world than the world as such.</p>

<p>I di think there were a couple of NPCs here that I would enjoy playing as GM</p>
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        <title>Cloud Atlas 07 - An Orison of Sonmi - 451</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2021 00:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>So for me this was the high point of <em>Cloud Atlas,</em> though <em>Sloosha's Crossing</em> is a close second. Even though the plot was nothing special, I thought everything worked in this story - the exotic world-building, the characters and their motivations, the horror and dystopia all were believable fictions to me. It was rich enough that I kept asking myself, "But what is over there just out of frame?" without feeling that anything was lacking - just like a real world where we just cannot describe everything. I'm currently working on a new setting with a local group, and am finding that we can just leave a lot of stuff vague until its needed. I was raised in RPGs where published settings were exhaustive, but have discovered that it is not really necessary as long as I have a clear idea of why the NPCs are doing things. The other members of the group may disagree with me of course.</p>

<p>Anyway, I found the detail provided here was just like that, e.g. the university was like a university, but different in ways that increased my interest as a reader. And the vocabulary was at the right level of oddness.</p>

<p>This was also the story that I actually noticed similarities with the <em>Luisa Rey Mystery.,</em> e.g. the car trips. I suddenly realised there was a similar flight to safety in <em>Timothy Cavendish,</em> which I hadn't connected. For me this further undermined the whole reincarnation reading - I started to notice that themes and motifs were what was keeping the stories together.</p>

<p>Have other things to say, but would like to hear from the rest of you ...</p>
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        <title>Cloud Atlas 08 - Sloosha's Crossin' An' EV'Rythin' After</title>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2021 00:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>So this story, together with <em>An Orison,</em> really seemed good to me. I found the representation of orality interesting, and when I had some trouble figuring it out found it was corrected simply by slowing down and sounding out the sentences. I always associate this with Faulkner, which is strange because <em>A Clockwork Orange</em> was actually the first book I read that was written in this style, but there you go.</p>

<p>I thought our protagonist was well-drawn, and the story and the characterisations believable. I also felt that it continued the kind of world-building I sensed in <em>An Orison.</em> I was a bit disappointed as I continued the book and read the conclusions of the other stories, because I never really got that world-connection across them all. I think that this story improved my appreciation for the <em>Pacific Journal,</em> largely because I saw a reflection in the relations among the Whites, Moriori and Maori with this story. Is this a story of Autua from a different point of view?</p>

<p>At the same time it crystallised some of my doubts about <em>Cloud Atlas</em> as a whole. Perhaps I am just too impatient a reader, but I never really got that interested in riddling out these possible reflections and refractions. In stead I often felt that I was watching someone show off a technical mastery of complexity that was not perfectly suited, or maybe subordinated, to plot and character. Perhaps if I had been more fascinated by the puzzle of it I wouldn't have had this reaction.</p>
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        <title>Cloud Atlas 06 - The Ghastly Ordeal of Timothy Cavendish</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2021 00:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>One part of me really liked this one, but I think I was influenced by having already seen the movie - I really felt the actors got into their parts. And I liked the ridiculous crime at the beginning as the motor for what happens to poor old Tim. But as I look back on it, this has become the most throw-away story even though I liked it. I think part of what changed my view was the lack of development of Tim as the story went along - he was already formed, and didn't change much. Maybe there's something deeper in there, but finally it seemed light compared to the other stories. Even though I didn't like the <em>Pacific Journal,</em> I found it had more meat.</p>
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        <title>Cloud Atlas 03 - The Pacific Journal of Adam Ewing</title>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2021 22:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>So this is for any discussion of this story. Feel free to jump in without waiting for a prompt!</p>

<p>For myself, I found this story really difficult to get into, and the cutting it in half didn't help. However I got used to the anchronistic format and started to enjoy the story, although I still don't really see anything that was added by choosing it. I was also irritated with Sixsmith providing spoilers in the next story. Then I found the ending quite a shift in tone, which removed any suspension of disbelief. So not my favourite</p>
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        <title>Cloud Atlas 01 - Structure: Interlocking narratives</title>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2021 13:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>So I think the most obvious starter is the question of CA's structure. <a href="https://www.ttrpbc.krilov.com/profile/Apocryphal" rel="nofollow">@Apocryphal</a> said the text is often described as a collection of stacking Russian dolls. What did people think of the structure?</p>

<p>When I was reading and got to the end of the first part, I actually asked myself if my ebook was defective, and spent some time checking that. Of course that would not happen if I had a physical book - the page format and numbers would have reassured me. Made me think about how the physical format matters. I like the movie ok (3.75 stars say), and I know that many of us have seen the movie, so I wonder what people thought of what that adaptation did to the structure, and how it might have evoked different responses from us. Likewise, does this structure have any relevance for the structure of roleplaying, and what adaptations would be needed?</p>

<p>One of the reasons I was looking forward to reading this was I am quite familiar with interlocking narratives in the Indo-Tibetan Buddhist context. Every text has a framing narrative, which provides evidence used by historians to produce a history of early Buddhism, as well as materials for a modern biography of the Buddha. Traditional biographies are too full of myth to be reliable for what we want to know nowadays. Then there are a great number of interlocking narratives that are used to explain the workings of karmic cause and effect, which entail the idea of rebirth and previous lives. Last in the Himalayan context there are interlocking narratives used to explain the development of a particular individual or Buddhist deity over many lives. They are sometimes extremely complex (or is it disorganised?) in how they leap from one narrative to another.  What I have gotten from reading these is that connected narratives are a powerful way to evoke and educate an understanding of trans-personal motivation.</p>

<p>In CA the connection was that the protagonists had each read one of the stories, and thought about it, and wanted to finish it. What did people think about this (author's projection of hope onto the reader ;-) ? What did we make of the connection the various protagonists in these stories?</p>
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        <title>Cloud Atlas 02 - Narrative voice</title>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2021 13:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Almost all the stories we read in CA are singular first-person narratives, framed as a journal for a future reader, a series of letters to a particular reader, an autobiographical detailing of previous events, responses to an interrogation about an event, and an oral history given by the elderly to the next generations. The Luisa Rey story is an exception, presented as a published genre novel. I wondered about this, but got nowhere. Anyone think there is some (deeper) significance to this, other than authorial decision?</p>

<p>There is also an interlocking piece of music for six intruments (CA Sextet) that is vaguely described to us, which is a counter-point to the novel. Would be interested to hear it some day, even though it doesn't exist. Did anyone else find this desire evoked despite its impossibility? What does that tell us about designing interesting or addictive games?</p>

<p>Last, it made me think about the voice used by GMs and rulebook / module writers vs the voices of PCs and players. I wondered how changing the voice during game play might change outcomes in ways not covered by mechanics, and also how personal conflict might be managed by getting mpeople to change the voice used to describe the problem. Any thoughts?</p>
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        <title>Cloud Atlas 00 - Checking in on reading progress</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2021 00:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone,</p>

<p>Just checking in to see how everyone is doing with reading Cloud Atlas. Officially September starts in 2 days, but if anyone needs the long weekend to finish up the book, we could start Labour Day. Let me know.</p>

<p>Thanks, BC</p>
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